Pelican

[RoyHiggi]

I have to ask but how h ell did you manage to birdie 13 in round 3

Honestly, I have no recollection... but I can promise you I either hit it inside 4 feet or chipped in from the fringe. I'd like to have the exact stats, but outside 10 feet I'm sure I have more chip-ins than putts made.

I think its 100% impossible to leave the ball at 4 feet so congrats on the chip in Being on the fringe I think slightly more chance of holing the shot than a putt does.

[RonnieSmith]

Sorry to pile on Roy, but I added to the birdie count. I guess I should have saved it, but it was an uphill 25 footer with a slight right to left break.

Didn't do much else really well in that round, but your post had my attention prior to hitting the tee shot.

Ronnie

I have to ask but how h ell did you manage to birdie 13 in round 3

Honestly, I have no recollection... but I can promise you I either hit it inside 4 feet or chipped in from the fringe. I'd like to have the exact stats, but outside 10 feet I'm sure I have more chip-ins than putts made.

I think its 100% impossible to leave the ball at 4 feet so congrats on the chip in Being on the fringe I think slightly more chance of holing the shot than a putt does.

[RoyHiggi]

"Sorry to pile on Roy, but I added to the birdie count. I guess I should have saved it, but it was an uphill 25 footer with a slight right to left break."

Thats interesting. Maybe the only way to play that hole is to be under the pin so the spin back is either minimal or doesnt happen at all. I played to land behind the pin which sounds like a schoolboy error now.

The shortest putt I had was well over 30 feet going on 40 from memory

[RonnieSmith]

Well, after running my aiming marker around, I decided to make sure I didn't fly it any further than pin high. I think the wind gusted a little on me when I hit so I came up a little short. Probably my best putt of the round.

With Moderate/Fast I try to never be above the hole unless it's <= about 5 feet.

Ronnie

"Sorry to pile on Roy, but I added to the birdie count. I guess I should have saved it, but it was an uphill 25 footer with a slight right to left break."

Thats interesting. Maybe the only way to play that hole is to be under the pin so the spin back is either minimal or doesnt happen at all. I played to land behind the pin which sounds like a schoolboy error now.

The shortest putt I had was well over 30 feet going on 40 from memory

[RonnieSmith]

Guess I should have kept my mouth shut until I finished the tourney. My putting Waterloo came on hole 14 in round 4. 5 putt where all putts were from < 10 feet. Sigh.

Ronnie

[GoesForIt]

RoyHiggi wrote:
I have to ask but how h ell did you manage to birdie 13 in round 3

I'll go into m Excel spreadsheet, find that pin position and go back and look at it.

I see the other Doug had an even rougher time than I did on #18 in Round #4.

BTW... are you guys really going to let me slide into 2nd place this week? Where's albatross? archytas?

[GoesForIt]

I have to ask but how h ell did you manage to birdie 13 in round 3

Okay, I'm almost convinced you must mean a hole other than #13??? In practice I set up M(C)/F(C) with Gusty and pin position #5. I birdied it 5 out of 10 times. Now, the wind may have been different in the tourney. For me, each case, it was a tailwind going at about 1 O'Clock and of course varying speeds. On all 5 of the birdies I hit about 90%, the ball hit past the hole and trickled down to about 4-10 feet.

[Echoes]

I have to ask but how h ell did you manage to birdie 13 in round 3

Okay, I'm almost convinced you must mean a hole other than #13??? In practice I set up M(C)/F(C) with Gusty and pin position #5. I birdied it 5 out of 10 times. Now, the wind may have been different in the tourney. For me, each case, it was a tailwind going at about 1 O'Clock and of course varying speeds. On all 5 of the birdies I hit about 90%, the ball hit past the hole and trickled down to about 4-10 feet.

Seeing that he carded an 8 on that par3, i doubt he was speaking of another hole.

[RoyHiggi]

I have to ask but how h ell did you manage to birdie 13 in round 3

Okay, I'm almost convinced you must mean a hole other than #13??? In practice I set up M(C)/F(C) with Gusty and pin position #5. I birdied it 5 out of 10 times. Now, the wind may have been different in the tourney. For me, each case, it was a tailwind going at about 1 O'Clock and of course varying speeds. On all 5 of the birdies I hit about 90%, the ball hit past the hole and trickled down to about 4-10 feet.

Seeing that he carded an 8 on that par3, i doubt he was speaking of another hole.

I always hit into a headwind on that hole. 100% of the time. Every time I hit beyond the hole so it will roll back but it always rolls virtually off the green or sometimes all the way off the green. I'm not sure the word trickle exists I suppose it starts with a trickle but just picks up speed to it gets back to the bottom of the hill.

The attempted putts or chips back up the hill will always come back to my feet unless they drop in.

[MasterMontgomery]

Maybe im wrong but, i do not have Pelican Hill Golf Course 2003.
When i load it i have Pelican Hill Golf Course 2001,
So i checked green 13, an it is flat as a pancake. So could this
be the issue? I do not know what green 13 looks like in the 2003
version. ???

Doug

[JackRussellTerror]

THIS course is shhhit

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[RoyHiggi]

Maybe im wrong but, i do not have Pelican Hill Golf Course 2003.
When i load it i have Pelican Hill Golf Course 2001,
So i checked green 13, an it is flat as a pancake. So could this
be the issue? I do not know what green 13 looks like in the 2003
version. ???

Doug

There are 2 different greens used for hole 13. One is very flat and one is a hill coming down from back to front.
I only have Pelican Hill Golf Club in my directory so I wouldn't know if that's 2001 or 2003 version

[Harpo]

When I pick Pelican Hill for a practice round, the only one in my list comes up as Pelican Hill (2003). I never delete an older course so I don't know if I ever had the older one. I have all the disks and cd's from the start so I don't know if there was ever two versions. To lazy to look back and see if it was a stand alone or on a cd with multiple courses.

Edit: Ok, I did find a single cd with it on. Checking now to see what version is on it.

The CD did not state the exact name of the course but the cd date is 9-10-96 so doubt it is the 2003 course. But why would both courses work for play here?

[GoesForIt]

THIS course is shhhit

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Go ahead...tell us how you really feel

[GoesForIt]

Maybe im wrong but, i do not have Pelican Hill Golf Course 2003.
When i load it i have Pelican Hill Golf Course 2001,
So i checked green 13, an it is flat as a pancake. So could this
be the issue? I do not know what green 13 looks like in the 2003
version. ???

Doug

Maybe a tour director can correct me if I'm wrong but courses are entered into the schedule by Course ID and Key. I think Mark still sets things up for 2001 (not sure) but if you're playing PLSA and using Links 2003 1.07 and did not have Pelican 2003, I think you'd get the message saying you didn't have the correct course.

Pelican 2003
Course ID Course Key
fdcec5fd56464393a3286ae9e9a8d838 50784d22ecda066492b5ec3d0221de21

Pelican 2001
Course ID Course Key
aa59fee563754ba5beafaec339899ca0 f09ef160c32a1d06325fcc11ce1d3ed3

Whether you could have a tailwind one round and a headwind the other depends on the APCD author. The author can set the maximum wind speed (with variance) and wind direction (with variance). Below are the settings for Carey Park Municipal Golf Course. Based on the direction variance, and after much study, 85% really means the wind change will be 15% of a circle. So, if the middle was at 0 degrees on a circle, the wind could vary by 7.5 degrees either side of 0. I've loaded Carey Park 50 times in succession and the wind direction on hole #1 goes from about 5:30 to 7 O'clock. I have no idea what the variance is for Pelican 2003.