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Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2021 7:06 pm
by GoesForIt
I mean absolutely no disrespect to Steven Lucey but I've decided to stick with Waialae Country Club over Waialae Country Club 2019 v2. The seam blends in Steven's update are better but I didn't see enough improvement to switch.

Re: Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:43 am
by BruMu
There are currently 4 versions of Waialae available. Do you mean the 2003 version by Jack Stewart will be used or the 2019 Steve Lucey (pre v2)?


V2 would seem to be a better choice since the severe slopes have been fixed. Would be more friendly to Chal Cond.

Re: Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 8:03 am
by GoesForIt
BruMu wrote:Vc2 would seem to be a better choice since the severe slopes have been fixed. Would be more friendly to Chal Cond.


I'll look into it immediately.

Re: Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 4:10 pm
by GoesForIt
AFTER FURTHER REVIEW, I've decided to use Waialae Country Club 2019 v2 by Steven Lucey. I've meticulously gone through 4 times and feel good all the pin positions will be fair.

When I go through, I use FIRM(C)/FAST(C) to make certain there are no roll backs or run offs. Max conditions for next week is MODERATE(C)/FAST(C). Of course, there will be non-C also as always.

I've submitted the information to Mark Hulka.

Re: Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:47 am
by BruMu
Guess V2 never made it in?

Re: Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:36 am
by GoesForIt
BruMu wrote:Guess V2 never made it in?


This is what I submitted to Mark. 2509 is definitely v2. From what I can see, it looks like Mark used 2019, but maybe not 2019 V2. If he used 2019 and the pin positions were changed between 2109 and 2019 V2, I suppose there could be a problem.

I'll write Mark and see what happened.

Re: Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 9:09 am
by BruMu
No worries, thanks for looking into it.

Re: Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 10:47 am
by GoesForIt
Mark has made the appropriate changes.

Re: Next week's SONY Open (Wailale)(PLSA)

PostPosted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 1:24 pm
by GoesForIt
Regarding V2, I must say there are some added palm trees that simply do not exist on that course.

It looks like Steve Lucey took some palms that maybe would be pigmy palms of about 2-3 feet and blew them up to 20-30 feet.

I can't say they came into play for me, but I'm watching on TV and they're just not there. The worst offender was on the back nine, but I cannot exactly remember the hole.

It's fine and without doubt, it was a better choice than 1835 ID course. I must say I should have at least tested the 2620 course of Tim Hagen. I just didn't see it.